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UFO's and the Paranormal with Marty Garza - Nov 18, 2023

Seriah is joined by Marty Garza, a former World Champion and Hall of Fame Monster Truck driver and engineer, with decades of experience as a paranormal researcher. Topics include The Snake Brothers, Whitley Strieber, the evolution away from nuts-and-bolts Ufology to a more holistic view of the phenomena, multiple interpretations of similar experiences, government disinformation since the 1940’s, cross-overs between different phenomena, false binary choices in paranormal belief, poltergeist activity, Luis Elizondo, UAPs, the paradox of ex-government personnel revealing top secret information without consequences, the U-2 flights in the 1950’s, an analogy between human interaction with dolphins and the abduction phenomenon, one-off monsters, “Survivorman” Les Stroud’s paranormal encounters, Timothy Renner, combined paranormal experiences, Jacques Vallee, reporting biases, the “hilltop graph”, one-time vs repeat experiencers, unexplained voices, personal encounters with the unknown, a youthful experience of Marty’s, a Whitley Strieber anecdote involving a fireball and a visit from a dead loved one, the film “Witness to Another World”, the Gulf Breeze 7 incident, contactees and false prophecies, Dorothy Martin, the group she led into expecting a mass alien landing, John Keel, misleading predictions, Gray Barker, MIB, Bernhard Schwartz, cattle mutilations, Black Eyed Kids, shadow people, Hatman, Black Cloud phenomenon, Djinn, paranormal sensitivity, Gary Nolan, the difficulties of inter-species communication, light phenomenon and poltergeist activity, the difficulties of the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis, Steven Greer, Fae Folk, the Last Exit For The Lost radio show, Mike Clelland’s first novel, Joshua Cutchin, psyops, an analogy involving the Great Wall of China, J. Alan Hynek, Graham Hancock, Ancient Aliens, shamanic experiences, religious origins, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry, mushrooms, ayahuasca, the Book of Enoch, plasma intelligence, orbs, alleged ball lightning, Aleister Crowley and ball lightning, Ray Hernandez, an episode of “Ghost Hunters”, a personal experience of Seriah, a paranormal content provider on social media, “The Conjuring”, Skinwalker Ranch, Timothy Good’s book “Alien Liaisons”, bizarre encounters at a western ranch, Jeff Ritzmann, Blind Frog Ranch, strange black boxes in a place in Colorado, green fireball sightings in the 1950’s, boron-fueled aircraft, Lockheed-Martin and nuclear fusion, the Space Defense Initiative of the 1980’s, and much more! This is some absolutely fascinating material!

- Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast

Outro Music is 50 Dollar Dynasty with Gone



UFO's and the Paranormal with Seriah and Marty on Brothers of the Serpent

From the Snakes Description; "We are joined on this episode by Marty Garza, guest and researcher from the UFO series, and Seriah Azkath, host of the excellent podcast Where Did the Road Go, for a full length roundtable discussion on the topic of UFOs. We start with the current state of things in the UFO/UAP subject, then the conversation morphs into a much more broad discussion on the nature of the phenomena itself."

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