Where Did the Road Go? Exploring the Fringe...

Nick Redfern is one of the most prolofic writers on the paranormal, and yet somehow always manages to introduce a wealth of new information with every book. Close Encounters of the Fatal Kind; Suspicious Deaths, Mysterious Murders, and Bizarre Disappearances in UFO History is no exception. Nick collects a variety of stories from UFO history, some which seem to reek of government conspiracy, and some that are hard to explain without some paranormal leanings. You have the case of a man literally melting in Brazil, suspicious deaths around Roswell and Maury Island, people with UFO connections disappearing, human mutilations, and so much more. The book is around 200 pages, an easy read, and just packed full of information and connections, some of which you likely had no idea about. Definitely worth the read if you are interested in UFO's, or government experiments on civilians. Disturbing stuff at times!

Follow Nick on his Blog at NickRedfernFortean.blogspot.com 

Laird Scranton joins us to talk about his latest book, Point of Origin. This is the fifth in his series of books, tracing the true origins of civilization through symbols and language. Each book is more fascinating than the last, and no one is doing the work Laird is doing! This is a very deep conversation at points. Laird Scranton is an independent software designer from Albany, New York who writes about ancient mysteries, cosmology and language. His work includes articles published in the University of Chicago's Anthropology News academic journal, in Temple University's Encyclopedia of African Religion, and in the Vassar Quarterly Magazine. His book "The Science of the Dogon" was taught at Colgate University under the title "Hidden Meanings: A Study of the Founding Symbols of Civilization." He is featured in John Anthony West's "Magical Egypt" documentary series and in Carmen Boulter's "The Pyramid Code", a series broadcast by the Documentary Channel. He has been interviewed on a variety of radio programs around the world including Coast-to-Coast AM and Red Ice Radio in Sweden. He has presented at conferences on Ancient Mysteries including Walter Cruttenden's annual CPAK (Conference on Precession and Ancient Knowledge) Conference, the A.R.E. Mysteries Conference, and the Paradigm Symposium.

Laird's unoffcial website is www.LairdScranton.com

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Gobekli Tepe: Genesis of the Gods; The Temple of the Watchers and the Discovery of Eden is the culmination of a huge body of work by Andrew Collins. Andrew was on top of this line of history back when Gobekli Tepe was just being discovered. A number of his earlier books investigate this area and this culture for keys to our past. This book brings all that together as he attempts to work out who the builders of the site were, and who the Annunaki may have been. He delves, in depth, into possible alignments, the symbolism involved, what may have happened far in our past that caused such a site to be buried, and who would have been able to orginize the building of such a site when no one but hunter / gatherers were supposed to be present. It is a deep and thorough analysis of the site and what it may mean. In the later part of the book, Andrew, initially prompted by a dream, begins to look for Eden, and it's connection to Gobekli Tepe. What he finds is fascinating. From the role of Gobekli Tepe in the foundation of our current world, to the lost peoples who may have created it, to the story of the garden of Eden, this is quite the journey, and told masterfully by Andrew Collins.

Andrew Collins Website is andrewcollins.com.

Mike Clelland and Aaron Gulyas return to the show to continue our conversation about the history of the UFO Phenomenon. We will pick up in the 1960's and go up to the 1980's. This is a different view from the standard history. Mike and Aaron have different angles they see this from, and we try to lay out what is actually there, and take away some of the assumptions and dogma that often finds its way into the UFO subject. We cover the Mothman, John Keel, Jacques Vallee, Project Blue Book, Cattle Mutilations, Crop Circles, and much more!

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Mike's website is hiddenexperience.blogspot.com and you can follow Aaron on facebook.

Part One of our talk can be found here.

This is the fourth installment of David's work on missing people in national parks. First thing to be said, this is NOT available on Amazon. It is available from David's site. Much like the previous books, this is a collection of cases that fit certain criteria. There are details in the cases that David focuses on, and he lays everything out pretty clearly. In some cases there is a lot of detail, whereas in others, the information is sparse. I am sure, in the end, some of these cases will be found to have prosaic explanations. Some of them, however, are very unusual. In this book, David has found the first cases that involve water disappearances that also fit some of the criteria. These cases are strange. If you have not read the previous books, you can still start on this one if you want. Everything is well explained, but reading all the books does give you a better idea of how strange these disappearances are. These are not cases of animal attacks, or serial killers, or serial kidnappers. There is something here we are missing, that we are not aware of, that is happening to these people. You can't really get an understanding of just how odd it all is, without reading the books. The cases are separated by state, and in the back are charts with various key points outlined as David tries to flesh out the patterns. This book is written pretty plainly, it's not told in story form, just facts from various sources, sometimes with comments from David afterwards. This really is a bewildering mystery, and it's a hard to put down book. It definitely makes you think twice about wandering national parks alone.

Stalking the Herd; Unraveling the Cattle Mutilation Mystery is an epic volume of work. At around 550 pages, it is the most comprehensive study of cattle mutilation I have ever seen. It begins with the history of our relationship to cattle, throughout time, through myth and ritual, and the horrible way in which we process cattle today. He covers cases of mutes (as they are called) in the middle ages and right up to the present eruption of cases in the mid-1900's. The book goes deep into the various incidents through the decades of the modern phenomena, taking everything apart in depth. At the end, Christopher tries to bring all the data to some sort of logical conclusion. The problem is disturbing and perplexing. You will walk away from reading this with a very different view of what really may be going on, and there aren't any easy answers. The implications are both confusing and disturbing. You will see that there seem to be at least two distinct things going on, one involving the government or some similar earthly agency (and why they would be doing this is even more worrisome) and another that is highly strange and hard to explain with any known earthly means. It's a mystery where, every time you think you know what is going on, you get the rug pulled out from beneath you. The author himself had some strange synchronicity while working on the book as well. I think this is an important piece of work. It is not full of speculation and pet theories. It is facts, laid out bare, and compiled to for some kind of overview, really for the first time. A must read.

China's Cosmological Prehistory; The Sophisticated Science Encoded in Civilization's Earliest Symbols is the fourth in a series by Laird Scranton. With each book, the work he lays out becomes more and more intriguing. In the past he has shown connections between the Dogon Tribe, Egypt, ancient Hebrew texts, and India and Tibet. Laird works with the symbols. It's not always the most exciting work, but the implications are important. In looking at the oldest versions of glyphs and symbols, Laird reveals that so many of these ancient cultures have similarities that can not be put down to mere coincidence. Often the symbols and language have a dual meaning that is not instinctive, and yet he finds that dual meaning crossing ancient cultures. The structures of the stupa and yurt across cultures seem to contain similar ideas. In the end it all suggests one master culture whose ideas were dispersed across the world at some point in great antiquity. Whether that is due to a culture disintegrating due to natural disaster, and the survivors retaining some of the knowledge and language, or whether it was taught to them, the connections are there, and they are deep in the past. Laird is set to continue this work in his next book, Point of Origin. 

Laird's unofficial website can be found here.

The Secret Chamber of Osiris; Lost Knowledge of the Sixteen Pyramids, is Scott Creighton's second book, following up The Giza Prophecy. First off, this was an enjoyable read. Scott starts with his theory of where there may be a hidden chamber near Giza. He lays out his thought process and potential evidence, and then tells the story of what happened when he tried to go to said area. Unfortunately, there is no resolution one way or another in this subject. What he does do well, is taking apart the standard Egyptology model of thought and theory as it relates to Giza. He delves into the legends of secret chambers, he thoroughly investigates Howard Vyse and tries to determine if he may have committed forgery in the relieving chambers above the King's Chamber. He explores the possibility of cycles of deluge and drought, and what may have been their cause. He speculates about the true age of the pyramids, lays out evidence to support the older age of the Sphinx, and makes a compelling argument as to what the 16 original Pyramids really were. He even includes his own theory about how the pyramids were built. Overall, a good read, some quality information, and I feel that it presents some intriguing possibilities. 

You can find Scott's site here. 

We will have with us this week, Scott Creighton to talk about his latest book, The Secret Chamber of Osiris: Lost Knowledge of the Sixteen Pyramids. We discuss Egypt, the history of secret chambers, Howard Vyse, what the pyramids may really have been for, and much more. 

Scott Creighton is an engineer whose extensive travels have allowed him to explore many of the world's ancient sacred sites. The host of the Alternative Egyptology forum on AboveTopSecret.com, he lives in Glasgow, Scotland. His website can be found at www.scottcreighton.co.uk.

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We are joined by Lorna Reynolds and Peter Kanellis from The Ghost Hunters of the Finger Lakes, as well as Luke St. Clair, an Anthropology major at Ithaca College, for a discussion on the Paranormal, including past lives, ghosts, reincarnation, and much more.

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